Historically, Ive been able to open a vid in QT, then select the portions of the vid I want to remove, remove them, and save the remaining portion as a new vid.
IE: downloaded Conan O'Brian show. I only want the portion with Triumph.

You may ask, why I do not simply continue using QT? Well, no matter what cedecs I have installed, QT cannot see them, and can never seem to downlaod them from the official. (see: QT $uck$.)

Ive tried quite alot of freeware progs, but Ive been able to find one that allows the most simple of editing options. I really dont care to become an audio/video technophile. So a prog that asks me to make complicated choices regarding compression rates, and frequency, just wont do for me.

I look forward to your replys. :--)

PS. If you know how to train QT to find existing codecs, by all means, let me know.
fyi: I use WinXP.
PPS. Ive read the "I reccomend" section.

Did I ask this in the wrong section?

Nope. Not quite clear what you are looking for though.
Unclear what type of movies you want to edit i.e. AVI (DIVX), MOV, MPG ????

Personally don't even use QT, just Quicktime Alternative....if I come across MOV, IPIX, or VR movies.

However, if doing basic editing... try VirtualDUB, Avid Free DV, Windows MovieMaker, Apple Imovie (Mac), DDClip Free, Wax. These are are freely available. Just do a search with Google.

free editing software:
http://desktopvideo.about.com/od/softwarer...stfreesw_ro.htm

PS. If looking for specific application, try the REQUESTS section

Thanks for the reply. :--)
I want to edit all formats. Quick time alt. doesnt have editing capabilities.
With QT, you simply mark the portion of the vid you want cut, and cut it.

Ive tried all the progs that you suggested Sadly, none of them have the ability to make simple cuts. They require you to make choices on compression rates, and frequencies.

Thanksa for the suggestions just the same.

Oh, and to further clarify my questions:
Quicktime attempts to call home whenever it cannot find the codecs needed.
Most of the time, it never finds the codec needed, even though they are infact installed on the host machine.
What my post was asking was, "Is it posssible to force QT to recognize codecs that are already installed on the host machine.

Quicktime has limited functionality for its native formats and only supports certain proprietary formats....and doesn't support 3rd party codecs so that's why doesn't recognize them. It will try to d/l codecs but will fail since doesnt support them.

Well... nothing is that simple especially if want a video editor that supports ALL formats.
Usually what I do is to identify the format i.e. MPG, AVI, MOV etc. and codec it uses (GSPOT can help) then I pick an editor that supports that 3rd party codec plugins.

Have to realize all formats are not the same... some require tweaking with settings. Be prepared to increase your knowledge level if want to do more serious multimedia editing.

Good luck!

Thanks for the reply.
Too bad. I really wish I could force QT to accept and utilize the codecs on my computer.
I will keep searching, but a simple editing prog, that also recognizes the respective codecs, is still a bit tough. I will try to increase my knowladge.

Well, just as I expected,...
I am venting here, and do not expect any answers or solutions.

I found a seemingly great program for editing called, "Video Edit Magic." And as I stated in my posts, like all the others, there is a mystery to be solved, that ppl like myself, can seem to fix.

I used G-spot to determine the original codecs and settings of my vid, then removed the unwanted portions. However, one cannot simply save as an AVI, like the AVI that you began with. No,..one must be an audio/video technophile. I must make a number of choices regarding compression and the like, before I can save my vid. Even then, its called, "make movie".
As I stated before, I want to simply choose, save. Why the "F" must it be so difficult? Before going to bed, I began the "movie making" process. This morning when I awoke, my vid is ready. Surprise, suprise, it doesnt work. G@ddammitt!

QT $uck$ because they are outdated and do not utilize the latest Dvix/Xvid codecs.(IE:useless) Yet they are somehow light years ahead of the entire industry, by virtue of the fact that you can simply save as an AVI, and miraculously, it knows that you liked it the way it was.(settings)

Lastly, in this community of codecs, people only use playback? No editing? Is that really all that takes place here? An entire site/community, centered around codecs, and noone, uses any software for editing?
I mean, the anagram(codec) implies an act of compression/decompression. Yet noone here is compressing? Noone here has ever tried QTpro, and is aware of its editing/saving capabilities?
I find it difficult to believe all this. That all of the people in this community, are only here, to play movies on their computers.
Im done.


*If you are gonna flame me, dont bother. Only reply if you are NOT part of the listen/watch-only set. If you use codecs to COMPRESS media files, then by all means step-up and share your wisdom. Or if you are part of a different community, that is involved with compressing media, then please direct me towards that community.
There has got to be a simple solution. A simple fool-proof method of editing a vid, and saving in the exact same method it was originally encoded.

happytimeharry, i don't want to flame you but don't post this kind of requests here. I don't want to discuss your last reply but would be better to stop posting remarks like:

Lastly, in this community of codecs, people only use playback? No editing? Is that really all that takes place here? An entire site/community, centered around codecs, and noone, uses any software for editing?
I mean, the anagram(codec) implies an act of compression/decompression. Yet noone here is compressing? Noone here has ever tried QTpro, and is aware of its editing/saving capabilities?
I find it difficult to believe all this. That all of the people in this community, are only here, to play movies on their computers.
...
Only reply if you are NOT part of the listen/watch-only set. If you use codecs to COMPRESS media files, then by all means step-up and share your wisdom.


If you don't have respect for our members and this forum is unuseful for you, please go and find yourself a better one.

Thank you

As i read you topic... Why don't you try professional progs, AdobePremier, or simlpier Sonic Foundry Vegas 4.0f...

AP has all requirments what you demand:) It needs a little knownledge od programs but it won't be problem I'm sure

How did I know that was coming?
Did I attack anyone? No.
Did I attack the members of this board? No.
Did I begin by saying that I am venting? Yes.

Did you specifically state what was so objectionable about my post? No
Did you help me by answering any of my queries? No
If members of this community can reccomend a place where I can find more info on using codecs to save edited AVI's, can they do so? Still waiting.

It is not disrespectful to ask a theoretical question. "Is this place only for people who play movies?"
NONE of my questions or comments were disrespectful to ANYONE. So I ask them again.
1.Is this place only for people who watch movies?
2.If there is a related forum for those who encode movies, where is it?
We could easily leave these here for people who know the answer. And, I bet that some do know the answers.

Surprise, surprise, you will ban me next.

Thanks for the reply.
Ive tried those, and so many more. I just want to save in the EXACT same format in which the original was encoded. If the prog requires that I make informed decisions regarding codecs and compression rates, or frenquencies, then I cannot use it.

Im looking for a prog that like QTpro, alows one to cut/delete unwanted segments, then click save.
Thanks again for your reply.

Well.. obviously using this thread as a springboard for your continued frustration to find a simple video editor.

Euromix addressed your post with a quote. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the underlying negative attitude, disrespect and pessimism towards this forum community. I already contributed to this long winded topic with several ideas, but you dismissed them. You obviously expect a quick fix and don't want to learn anything new. I could give you some tutorials, but frankly you would get lost since it involves making
Therefore it will be pointless for me to offer further advice.... and yes, I do some multimedia editing and MPEG encoding.

To answer your questions:
1. No. However, this is not specialized video forum. Serves a general audience.
2. Yes, other forums/information I can suggest are:

http://www.videoforums.co.uk/
http://www.videohelp.com
http://forums.afterdawn.com/
http://forum.doom9.org/

My last (off-topic) reply here: Surprise, surprise, i/we won't do it as long as you respect the rules.

Thank you very much for the reply. And thanks for the links. I will check them out immediately.
I am sorry to inform you, that you are quite incorrect with your assessment of my intentions. It is true that I speak in an often misunderstood manner, so this is not surprising.
1. The topic isnt long winded. It simply states what I am looking for. But it does so repeatedly, since I am often met with, "I dont quite get what yer askin' for."

2. "disrespect and pessimism": Again, no. You are really reaching. Its as though you want someone to be disrespectful, so you dug deep into my words, to imply that I included an, "underlying" hostility. I assure you that it is imagined.

3.Quick fix?: Yes and no. I dont mind learning at all. And have been studying all along, to hopefully remedy my problem. I am not lazy. The technology exists. I am fishing until I find someone who knows exactly what I am talking about. It is very kind of you to offer your help, to educate me further, only to retract that offer based on an illinformed assumption about me. Nonetheless, I accept the generosity of your offer.
4. I did not dissmiss your ideas. I took them. They did not serve my immediate purpose, so I moved on. I am sure that your contributions will serve me in some as of yet undiscovered conumdrum.
5. ",...dont want to learn anything new." That is disrespectful. You cant possibly know anything about me, other than what I have written here. So your assumption is an illinformed one. (I have no desire to learn about auto-repair. Therefore, I would prefer to take my car to someone else.) Honestly, I do not need to become an expert in audio compression. Its not a hobby nor even an interest. But I am willing to learn what is nessessary, to complete my goal.

6. "I could give you some tutorials, but frankly you would get lost since it involves making,...? I am guessing that your next words were something along the lines of, "an effort." Again rude, and presumptious. You know nothing about me.
Ive been experimenting with programs and even using tutorials that are offered on many sites. But you dont know that. And how could you?
(Geraldo Rivera offered to shave his mustache if Michael Jackson is found guilty. He was gonna cut it off anyway.)

Well that's enough. I would like to thank all that attempted to assist me. While the ideas shared here, did not present a solution to my particular equation, I was able to expand my knowladge-base, as a result. Thank you.

As a closing comment I will once again post what I am looking for.

"Select, cut/delete, save." Thats all. Quicktime does just that. But it does not recognize Xvid. If I could point QT to the codecs, it seems like it could help.
Simple. The technology does infact exist. And someone will one day notice and state as much. I have experience with many audio programs that do this. Video is there somewhere.
Thanks again.
hth
PS: Shall we drag this out forever? Or can we now dispense with personal critisms on dialectics?

Wow, only took you 10 days to craft another long-winded reply and dissect my post.

Anyway, I won't offer further advice since that would be futile.
I will simply acknowledge your post with a curt reply: GOOD LUCK!

Hey,
As I do feel that you are being over senceitive for nothing here are some programs that I found that you MIGHT could use. Here they are:
1. Blaze Media Pro:
Blaze Media Pro is a powerhouse all-in-one audio converter, video converter, audio editor, audio recorder, DVD/CD burner, player, playlist (including full screen video), and much more. Other advanced features include audio CD burner, video CD burner (VCD/SVCD), and data CD/DVD burning, video editing, audio editing, video capture, video creation/combining/extraction, batch video processing, media management, audio merge, MusicID audio recognition, lyrics search, and more. The audio content of video files can be extracted and saved to sound files, and frames can also be extracted to images files in batch mode. Video files can also be created from still frame images and/or other videos.
Supported conversions include: CD ripping, MP3, MP2, WMA, OGG, WAV, AIF, VOX, MPC, G.72x, AU, RAW to MP3/WMA/OGG/WAV; CD burning from WAV/MP3/WMA/OGG, WAV and MP3 Compression, and two-way video conversions among MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AVI, WMV, Multi-Page TIFF, and FLIC. The MPEG encoder features options for VCD, SVCD, and DVD compliant output. The CD ripper feature provides a CDDB auto-save feature, which enables track title, artist, and album information to be dynamically downloaded from the Internet CD Database and used when converting audio CD tracks to WAV, MP3, WMA, or OGG. This feature is fully configurable to use as much or little of the information desired in any preferred order. Of course, this feature can also be disabled for those who do not wish to be connected to the Internet while converting CD tracks.
http://www.mystikmedia.com/blazemediapro.asp

2.Colorful Movie Editor:
It is the fastest and simplest way to create compelling productions from raw video and designed to be fast, easy and fun to use. with which you can create your own film from AVI/DIVX/VCD/MPEG/ASF/WMV/RM format movie.
http://www.canadiancontent.net/tech/downlo...vie_Editor.html

P.S. Please post and tell me if these helped you or not.

Ive tried Blaze, but I will revisit it just to be sure. I will try the Colorful movie Editor, next.
Thank You very much for the reply.

No problem. Always glad if i can help.